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Iím having some issues with this one group of Tropheus. Theyíre a group of 45 young adults, 2-3.5Ē in size. The temp is around 79* and I keep the ph around 8.0. All other levels are fine. I have many other groups (not in the same tank and this 125 is a single species) which I donít have any issues with but this group has me scratching my head.

The issues Iím noticing seem to be consistant with each lost. Iím up to 4-6 losses by now and with the one thatís currently sick hereís what Iím seeing.. The fish becomes weakÖobviously somethingís wrong. The fish swims towards the top almost floating from corner to corner along the water line. The fish seems to be huffing a bit and become darker than the others. Iíve noticed what seems to be a scale or two missing from the bodyÖhard to tell but it may also be a sore or something.. but the weirdest thing is how I see a slight pale swelling on their belly in either the vent or anus. Usually this will happen to 1 fishÖthen it will die. Then a month later it will happen again. Now Iím noticing it happening more often like once a weekÖ

Itís so frustrating b/c Iím doing everything the same with my other tanks with no issues. Iíve been keeping everything consistent with a simple mix of ClorAX, Baking Soda and Epsom SaltÖ It also seems that by the time I get to the fishÖitís always too late. Iíve tried using only the metro flake food for a week straight as Iím not a huge fan of treating the tank but now Iím open to suggestions as I do not think itís bloatÖmost of the fish are eating but then Iíll notice some fish hiding in the bottom dark corners of the tankÖI have a 48Ē light on the top/center of the tank so the corners are darkerÖthe light is barely even on as Iím only in there to feed them in the AM and at night.

Iím wondering what would cause the fish to be so lethargic and kill only one fish randomly at a time. I would assume that if it was something more serious issue with my water or something, more than one fish would die off at a time.

Through process of elimination:
Kidney/Liver failure?
Bacterial of fungas?
Just a bad batch?

Before I go through my metro/clout regimen, I thought I'd see what others think. Based on these symptoms, any suggestions would be really appreciated!
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I seriously think that you may have a case of aggression .
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I seriously think that you may have a case of aggression .
You know, I thought I about that however, the fish are young...there are plenty in there and the tank should be large enough to give them adequate space. I have rocks in only the corners...but that being said, aggression still be the issue. The pale swelling by the vent is worrying me as that too seems to be consistent..
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This happened to me once and the only way I stopped the trend was by treating with metro, bifuran, clout and copper sulfate all at the same time. Had to nuke everybody for two weeks before the dying stopped.
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Longdrag sorry to hear that this is happening to your fish...there could be lots of factor why this is happening..my suggestion is to cure the whole tank with all possible medicine just like sunny said to prevent more deaths, the sooner the better curing/catching whatever bug is in your tank. Hope evrything goes well and keep us updated!
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Sorry to hear about your fish Dan. Hope it stops soon!
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Im guessign from your post saying young they are F1s or tank raised, where did you get them from and have you had them long before issues?
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Thanks for the support and suggestions. I will take another look at them tonight when I get home from work and then decide on which direction I go in terms of medicating.

They are all f1s however, they came from 2 different local breeders who I know well. I've had one group for over a year and the 2nd has been with me now for 2 months or so.
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Ok, yeah if you know the breeders and you have had them for awhile it must have arrose from water conditions or aggression, but like you said aggression should be spread out with that many fish. Good luck.
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