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I have a question it's between cyp leptosoma and cyp micros. Just wondering differences. So far I've derived that leptosoma are more colorful, smaller unless a jumbo variant, more solid coloration where blues an yellows are separated rather than blotchy like the micros and the micros have a lyre tail. Anything else I should know. Thinking about getting some Micros to grow out from a friend of mine but wanted to know the difference between his Utinta and micro Kiriza
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I've got both Kirizas micros and Utintas. My vote definitely goes to the micros, Utintas really pale before them.

The micros are much larger, 3 to 5 inches with a broad body. Their colors are beautiful, every male is different from the others, and they have violet metallic hues all over their bodies. The females are kinda orangeish-brown. They are calm and peaceful. Their only drawback is that they need a larger tank, even though people do keep them in 4 foot tanks, I would not put mine in anything smaller than 6 foot. I've got them 3 years ago and never got a fry to survive past a few weeks, even if they breed about 3 times a year. Small mouthfuls of about 2-5 fry. I don't strip.

The Utintas are kinda cute, tiny fish with frank blue bodies and blue or yellow tails. Females are grey-brown. They breed heavily and the fry are easy to grow out.
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Thanks for the input. Do you know why the micros are so hard to breed and rear the fry from?
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Untinta are great for a 4' tank, a bigger tank needs a bigger cyp. Agree on the raising micro fry, no idea why but not easy to grow out. I just managed to add 10 back into my group, it took a long time. P.S Rick, jumbos are not Leptosoma.
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Oh ok thanks Noddy, I thought there were Jumbo Leptosoma, thanks for clearing that up. Yours were beautiful.
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Thanks Rick. It's a no brainer if you have a 6' tank and you'r not trying to keep them with Foai. Pavo are even nicer IMO.
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Thanks Rick. It's a no brainer if you have a 6' tank and you'r not trying to keep them with Foai. Pavo are even nicer IMO.
I've kept, and spawned many a Foai-Furcifer in 6ft. tanks which they shared with Cyprichromis. Leptosoma, Micro's, or Pavo's, will mix fine with Foai, especially in a 6ft. tank. Cyprichromis jumbo may cause you some problem's when it comes to spawning Foai. An adult jumbo Cyp. will usually dominant a tank when spawning, and can do damage to your Foai. There are some beautiful varities of Micro's out there, but as mentioned , take forever to mature and spawn. When they do start to spawn it is not often. I did keep a few wild caught Micro's in the past, and they were more prolific compared to F1's. Pavo's are in the same catergory IMO, the only difference that most are not aware of is their spawning technique. Pavo's like to spawn in cave's or behind rock's opposed to Open water like most Cyprichromis. Good luck with your choice, Great fish !
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my jumbo kitumbas and foai all spawned together in a 6ft 125, but anthony's right the adult cyps do get aggressive when they're spawning.. ive seen the kitumba snap at the foai but they just get out of the way... and when my foai had a huge bower the cyps would just kinda stay on the other side of the tank and spawn... heres been my experience with cyps... the smaller leptosoma arent as colorful as jumbos but they have much larger clutchs due to the eggs being smaller.. i had a kerenge female hold 22 eggs and they werent even really large like the wild caughts zebra 7 had awhile ago those things were huge i can only imagine how many they would hold.. jumbos will spawn the most frequently imo. regular leptosoma will get almost as big as jumbos and micros... it just takes them awhile..regular leptosoma will spawn when they are very small.. jumbos can too.. micros also get real but dont like to spawn very often, if you can get them to spawn at all and only spawn once they are rather large they wont breed small.. pavos are hard to get to breed too.. micros especially kiriza are known to not color up all the time.. only when they want to spawn.. if you want an active always colored up group my suggestion would be to go with a jumbo.. they are the easiest to spawn and most active and imo more colorful than the regular leptosoma which are always just blue or purple fish with a yellow or blue tail.. micros are always very variable in how their colors are but usually only have alot of color in the anal and dorsal fin and none in the tail.. micros the most ive ever had in a clutch was 16, and the jumbos its usually like 5-12
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I've kept, and spawned many a Foai-Furcifer in 6ft. tanks which they shared with Cyprichromis. Leptosoma, Micro's, or Pavo's, will mix fine with Foai, especially in a 6ft. tank. Cyprichromis jumbo may cause you some problem's when it comes to spawning Foai. An adult jumbo Cyp. will usually dominant a tank when spawning, and can do damage to your Foai. There are some beautiful varities of Micro's out there, but as mentioned , take forever to mature and spawn. When they do start to spawn it is not often. I did keep a few wild caught Micro's in the past, and they were more prolific compared to F1's. Pavo's are in the same catergory IMO, the only difference that most are not aware of is their spawning technique. Pavo's like to spawn in cave's or behind rock's opposed to Open water like most Cyprichromis. Good luck with your choice, Great fish !
I agree 100% with everything here. I made a mistake with my post, I meant to say especially if you are keeping them with Foai. I had Leptosoma in with Ventralis in a 6' tank and they just dissapeared in there. I replaced them with jumbo blue orchids and they were a much better fit. When I replaced the ventralis with Foai the Foai wouldn't spawn so I replaced the jumbos with Micro Kirizas. Success, finally. I have since sold off the Foai and replaced them with Nasutas, and also added a few Pavo. This also seems to be a good mix.
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