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mobafry123
06-28-2009, 12:45 AM
anyone ever seen or heard of these?are they polydon?
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auc...&1246762378 (http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwcichlidst&1246762378)

ValleyAquatics
06-28-2009, 01:13 AM
Looks like a Polyodon Mpulungu to me.......just needs to color up a bit.

There's no such collection point as Chinga in the Congo. Just a made up name.

It's like saying you have Frontosa collected in Mikula.......the collection point is Livua, they just changed the name.
Mikula is actually a German name.

Also I think he means DRC not DMC.........once again no such thing as DMC. :lol:

So I don't think it's new, I also don't think it's collected in the Congo.

Other then those issues, it's still a cool Petro, just needs to be correctly identified.

Mark
06-28-2009, 08:48 AM
Yelp.....that same seller sold me a 16 inch.....Long Fin Blue Blaze ChaChinga Frontosa from the DMV. :killingme: :killingme: :killingme:

mobafry123
06-28-2009, 01:39 PM
he just got back to me and said....a new polydon morph collected near livua.what do you guys think,true sp. or what? :Thinking:

gernot
06-28-2009, 02:37 PM
I'm with Steve on this. When i saw the pic i was reminded of Petro polyodon Kasakalawe. Steve said Mpulungu but i stronlgy assume that we talk about the same Petro. Here's a video of a guy from Germany who keeps 24 of them in a 190g tank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLka9YZ9jE...feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLka9YZ9jE&feature=related)

rgds
gernot

mobafry123
06-28-2009, 02:45 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gernot @ Jun 28 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=33270)</div>I'm with Steve on this. When i saw the pic i was reminded of Petro polyodon Kasakalawe. Steve said Mpulungu but i stronlgy assume that we talk about the same Petro. Here's a video of a guy from Germany who keeps 24 of them in a 190g tank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLka9YZ9jE...feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLka9YZ9jE&feature=related)

rgds
gernot[/b]
how much difference is there between the kasakalawe and the kachese?
how far apart are the two collection points?

ValleyAquatics
06-28-2009, 02:56 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gernot @ Jun 28 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=33270)</div>I'm with Steve on this. When i saw the pic i was reminded of Petro polyodon Kasakalawe. Steve said Mpulungu but i stronlgy assume that we talk about the same Petro. Here's a video of a guy from Germany who keeps 24 of them in a 190g tank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLka9YZ9jE...feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLka9YZ9jE&feature=related)

rgds
gernot[/b]

Hi Gernot,

Yes we are talking about the same fish.

The name is Kasakalawe, but the old name I believe is Mpulungu.

ValleyAquatics
06-28-2009, 03:01 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(russ @ Jun 28 2009, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=33271)</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gernot @ Jun 28 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=33270)I'm with Steve on this. When i saw the pic i was reminded of Petro polyodon Kasakalawe. Steve said Mpulungu but i stronlgy assume that we talk about the same Petro. Here's a video of a guy from Germany who keeps 24 of them in a 190g tank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLka9YZ9jE...feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLka9YZ9jE&feature=related)

rgds
gernot[/b]
how much difference is there between the kasakalawe and the kachese?
how far apart are the two collection points?
[/b][/quote]


It's not Kachese at all.

Gernot and I are speaking of Mpulungu and Kasakalawe which are extremely close and the same Petrochromis.

The Petro is claimed to be from Chinga and there is no Chinga at the Lake.

mobafry123
06-28-2009, 03:12 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ValleyAquatics @ Jun 28 2009, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=33273)</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(russ @ Jun 28 2009, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=33271)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gernot @ Jun 28 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=33270)I'm with Steve on this. When i saw the pic i was reminded of Petro polyodon Kasakalawe. Steve said Mpulungu but i stronlgy assume that we talk about the same Petro. Here's a video of a guy from Germany who keeps 24 of them in a 190g tank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLka9YZ9jE...feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLka9YZ9jE&feature=related)

rgds
gernot[/b]
how much difference is there between the kasakalawe and the kachese?
how far apart are the two collection points?
[/b][/quote]


It's not Kachese at all.

Gernot and I are speaking of Mpulungu and Kasakalawe which are extremely close and the same Petrochromis.

The Petro is claimed to be from Chinga and there is no Chinga at the Lake.


[/b][/quote]
thanks for the replies!
i inquried about some other polydon,and they said these ones are from kachese,looks to be a little less yellow.the guy i talked to is a very credible importer.is there no such thing as polydon kachese,or are they known as something else?

Apexpredator
06-28-2009, 03:29 PM
Definitly a polydon type. Keep in mind the guy obviously took a close up pic of the fish with the flash on so those colors will not be the same in your tank at home.

gernot
06-28-2009, 03:32 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(russ @ Jun 28 2009, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=33275)</div>thanks for the replies!
i inquried about some other polydon,and they said these ones are from kachese,looks to be a little less yellow.the guy i talked to is a very credible importer.is there no such thing as polydon kachese,or are they known as something else?[/b]

when you google you find Polydon Kachese on some sites, among them this link

http://www.suephoto.com/index.php/galeria/index/5/130

Looks indeed like the fish being offered by the importer and similar to the Petro Steve and I ment. I'm repeating myself but i wish some people would make an effort and get a halfway decent scientific structure behind the Petrochromis genus.

rgds
gernot

ValleyAquatics
06-28-2009, 04:29 PM
I'm sticking with the Mpulungu/Kasakalawe.

The pictured fish has more yellow in it then the Kachese does IMO.

Either way, the fish shown isn't a Congo Petrochromis.

mobafry123
06-28-2009, 04:56 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ValleyAquatics @ Jun 28 2009, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=33282)</div>I'm sticking with the Mpulungu/Kasakalawe.

The pictured fish has more yellow in it then the Kachese does IMO.

Either way, the fish shown isn't a Congo Petrochromis.[/b]
seems like he should know exactly what they are!
i'm not going to get them,just wondering! :thumbsup:

Elund
09-05-2009, 03:47 AM
Hi

Here is a picture of the so called Chinga.http://www.tanganyikacichlider.dk/Chinga1.jpg

http://www.tanganyikacichlider.dk/Chinga.jpg

geost
09-05-2009, 04:02 AM
Hello Elund, welcome and very nice group. Whatever the collection point is they are nice :thumbsup:

How many, size and ratios of the group? Also what size of a tank are they in?

Goathead
09-05-2009, 12:44 PM
That is a wicked looking Petro.....very nice :thumbsup:

HOLWACHAGOT
09-05-2009, 01:10 PM
Whatever the collection point really is...Elund's so called Chimba are INSANE! Coolest looking Petro I have seen yet.
Thanks for posting the pics.
Holwachagot

billansor
09-05-2009, 01:42 PM
:wave: Hi Elund

Welcome to Trophs.......

Thanks for those pictures.... they are awesome... I am with the others...
How long have you had them??
Any breeding going on??
Do you have any other petro's??

Cool picture taking...

Again.. Welcome

Bill :)

gernot
09-05-2009, 03:13 PM
Beautiful fishes Elund, congrats :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Those are certainly different from the Polydon variant Steve and i were talking about in this thread. Hope you don't have only 2-3 of them.

cheers
gernot

Elund
09-07-2009, 05:06 PM
Hi All

The Chinga group is not mine but one of my freinds.
They are in a 720L tank and I mean there are 18 in the group.
They have not been in the tank for so long so no breeding yet. But if I knoe my friend right it dosenīt take long time before they will start breeding.

If iīm lucky I will soon get a group of Chinga.

Of petro I have the Petrochromis Famula "Kigoma Red" and the Longola. (insane Petro)

Regards Kasper

Elund
09-13-2009, 09:03 AM
HI

Today I will get a group af Petrochromis Chinga and Petrochromis famula "Kapampa" So I will upload some pictures as soon the fish have settled down in their tanks.

Regards Kasper